Curse

Arghore · Jul 15, 2009, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Nice Pic there MBTW, that was the radius i was thinking about too (based on the first picture)... i have a hunch one of the stones landed in the Swamps south of the Temple of Ages, seeing we get to fight a large army of undead comming from those swamps (makes you wonder what they were doing there...)

Mordakai · Jul 15, 2009, 08:16 PM // 20:16

I'm sure everyone realizes this, but it's very possible a piece flew into the middle of the ocean.

Not very exciting, I know, but possible.

Konig Des Todes · Jul 15, 2009, 09:42 PM // 21:42

I've already said that, Mordakai. Been said for a nice long while. :x

The last two pieces are either on Orr(ian Peninsula), in the ocean, or on an unknown land directly west or southwest (or even directly south) of the Ring of Fire Island Chain. We've been everywhere else they could land, for the most part.

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Originally Posted by Aghore

i have a hunch one of the stones landed in the Swamps south of the Temple of Ages, seeing we get to fight a large army of undead comming from those swamps (makes you wonder what they were doing there...)

Doubt it personally. Mostly because if a bloodstone was in that area, it would be well known, and we'd see an environmental effect like we see in the Maguuma's water (preservation), the Bloodstone Caves (aggression), and the Ring of Fire (though that one is debatable for which it is, Denial, Destruction, or the Keystone). The Swamp area, and more so the Cursed Lands, don't have an unnatural environmental effect (for those who say the water is an environmental effect, consider how much water holds actual healing powers, and how *non-dried up* plant-life only exists there where there is water *aka, the lower lands*).

The last two bloodstones would have to be in an area we have not been around, and the bloodstones' magic would seep into the land and air around it - as said it does in the Manuscripts.

Mordakai · Jul 15, 2009, 10:05 PM // 22:05

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

I've already said that, Mordakai. Been said for a nice long while. :x

Ahh, yes, so you did on your first post of this thread.

Anyway, I agree that's the probable location.

Arghore · Jul 15, 2009, 10:27 PM // 22:27

Well if anything i would guess the stone in the Ring of Fire is the stone of Destruction, the creatures that arise when completing the 'Mouth Of Abaddon' look alot like the Destroyers, and seeing the destroyers are made of Lava, it would make sence that the effect of the 'bloodstone of destruction' is causing this ?!

Are there any bloodstone references on Cantha and Elona ?

draxynnic · Jul 16, 2009, 02:20 AM // 02:20

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Originally Posted by Arghore

Well if anything i would guess the stone in the Ring of Fire is the stone of Destruction, the creatures that arise when completing the 'Mouth Of Abaddon' look alot like the Destroyers, and seeing the destroyers are made of Lava, it would make sence that the effect of the 'bloodstone of destruction' is causing this ?!

Apart from appearance and the Charr connection, there is no connection between the Titans and the Destroyers. The latter are essentially the soldier-ants of the hive mind that is the Great Destroyer and, as far as we know, are created wholly within the mortal world, while the former were constructed from twisted souls under Abaddon's auspices within the Realm of Torment and create physical bodies out of whatever materials are at hand.

That both the Destroyers and the first Titans we meet are lava-based is essentially coincidence arising from the fact that the Door of Komalie was in a volcano and that lava was the most convenient available substance - the Titan Quests, however, show that Titans manifesting in other environments can be composed of quite different materials.

Personally, my own theory is that Ritualist power is tied to the Keystone in the same way that the other non-physical professions are tied to one of the four subsidiary Bloodstones, putting the keystone in the position of having power over the mists - which, if it's the keystone in the Ring of Fire, would explain why it's that stone that can open the portal into Torment rather than any of the others (the Mursaat don't seem particularly afraid of anyone opening the Door at Bloodstone Fen, after all...). However, apart from the elegance of explaining how Ritualist magic fits into the general magic system and explaining the significance of the Ring of Fire bloodstone in one theory, there's not much in the way of real evidence for it.

fires element · Jul 16, 2009, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Could there be any possibility that your guess on the 4th bloodstone might be exact? What is in the dead center of that square?

dead center of that square is approximately where vloxs falls is at

MBTW · Jul 18, 2009, 05:44 AM // 05:44

Closer to Sanctum Cay actually.
Cantha could actually be close enough to the volcano launch radius, but Elona is out of the question, its due south of the desert, and the radius barely reaches the Orrian Peninsula. If it landed in Cantha the only place i could think would be Northwest.
Has anyone thought that it landed near the Battle Isles, causing tidal disturbance and uncovering the Isles, or the Battle Isles were possibly built around them?

Konig Des Todes · Jul 18, 2009, 07:27 AM // 07:27

Cantha is even further away from Tyria than Elona is. And islands don't form around bloodstones (and if you mean the structures, the Zaishen would make some comment on that, I'm sure) - they are formed from underwater volcanoes. Some of them that is.

Gmr Leon · Jul 18, 2009, 08:09 AM // 08:09

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And islands don't form around bloodstones they are formed from underwater volcanoes. Some of them that is.

Well, if it weren't for the very likely incredible depth of the ocean, I'd say it would be possible. Although, if it landed in a shallow area, it might be more viable, but it would have to go fairly deep into the ground and probably be in an area with a current carrying sediment, or in other words, in a delta where the sediment begins forming small islands.

Cursed One · Jul 18, 2009, 10:18 PM // 22:18

Could one of the stones not have landed on one of those islands in the north of the crystal desert? They seem big enough

Konig Des Todes · Jul 18, 2009, 11:22 PM // 23:22

Those islands north of the Crystal Desert would be what remains of Orr, which we have said a bloodstone could be there.

Gmr Leon · Jul 18, 2009, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Except that, you know, Orr is west of the Crystal Desert.

Konig Des Todes · Jul 18, 2009, 11:54 PM // 23:54

And technically, there are no islands north of the Crystal Desert - and technically, Orr is northwest of most (note:Not all) of the Crystal Desert.

Gmr Leon · Jul 19, 2009, 12:01 AM // 00:01

That's still dependent on if you classify the Desolation as part of the Crystal Desert though.

MBTW · Jul 19, 2009, 02:58 AM // 02:58

i just got to thinking... what if the last bloodstone ended up near orr.... couldn't the orrian dragon be leeching off the blood stones power making it epic powerful...? lol

Fritz Bloodwraith · Jul 19, 2009, 08:21 PM // 20:21

According to the radius on the map that was shown. The bloodstone could be below Lion's Arch in that bay. But isn't it possible that some unknown life forms or the White Mantle could have carried the missing Bloodstones to unkown locations. Locations that could be far from where they originally landed?

Gmr Leon · Jul 19, 2009, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by Fritz Bloodwraith

According to the radius on the map that was shown. The bloodstone could be below Lion's Arch in that bay. But isn't it possible that some unknown life forms or the White Mantle could have carried the missing Bloodstones to unkown locations. Locations that could be far from where they originally landed?

If the White Mantle could move the Bloodstones, don't you think they would have moved Bloodstone Fen after the assault by the Shining Blade in the mission of the same name?

draxynnic · Jul 20, 2009, 01:19 AM // 01:19

Playing devil's advocate, they may have - storywise, we never go back to look.

I highly doubt it, though.

Gmr Leon · Jul 20, 2009, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by draxynnic

Playing devil's advocate, they may have - storywise, we never go back to look.

I highly doubt it, though.

Er..Are you sure? I recall that the quest to recruit Olias as a hero has you revisit it. Ah, here it is.